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Post by Gordy88 on Tue 6 Jan - 21:39:04

I mentioned in a post a couple of days ago about the price of ABW rising.

Well, I found out today that the rise will be in the region of 60%.

There are some very unhappy Bagpipe makers out there at the moment thats for sure.

What this will actually mean in terms of Pipe prices is going to depend on the maker, it won't mean a 60% rise in prices, as a set of unmounted sticks is the same cost for the maker, no matter what the mounts are made of.

But I would suggest around 20% is likely

I know that unworked imitation ivory has gone up too, and Silver is silly money at the moment.

All in all, with the other bad news about at the moment in the pipemaking world, this is not going to help sales at all.

Funnily enough, what it might do is close the price gap between New pipes and IMO the more desirable older vintage type pipes

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Post by Piping Connections on Tue 6 Jan - 23:46:01

Prices went up just before xmas Gordy - the clever makers have bought enough to last a year at pre-increase prices , but yeah theres hardship in the future !!!
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Post by stormy on Wed 7 Jan - 1:00:57

The cost of the instrument is not the problem. The problem is the buyer.

Do I want these pipes.....yes.
Can I afford them...........yes.
Then go ahead and buy them.

Do I want these pipes ....yes.
Can I afford them...........no.
I'll buy them anyway!!!!

Buying stuff you cannot afford puts you into debt.
Someone should tell Gordon Brown!!!!


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Post by David Wilson on Wed 7 Jan - 13:39:21

I 'm glad I bought my set of Tweedies back in 1980 even then the prices were starting to rise as my brother bought a set the year before and his were about 40 less.
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Post by Redneck on Wed 7 Jan - 22:44:56

Looks like my recent find is even more tempting now. big grin
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Post by Gordy88 on Wed 7 Jan - 23:09:22

stormy wrote:The cost of the instrument is not the problem. The problem is the buyer.

Do I want these pipes.....yes.
Can I afford them...........yes.
Then go ahead and buy them.

Do I want these pipes ....yes.
Can I afford them...........no.
I'll buy them anyway!!!!

Buying stuff you cannot afford puts you into debt.
Someone should tell Gordon Brown!!!!


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Post by Gordy88 on Wed 7 Jan - 23:11:31

Piping Connections wrote:Prices went up just before xmas Gordy - the clever makers have bought enough to last a year at pre-increase prices , but yeah theres hardship in the future !!!

Yeah they did,

I dont think anyone on here is naive enough to think that they wont pass it on though,

Basic business accounting, basic business ethics is in a different place

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Post by Piping Connections on Mon 12 Jan - 17:21:17

Just to update this topic
Ive just had a wee conversation with Craig Munro ar Wallace Bagpipes and have been assured that no product from Pipes to Practice Chanters will be increasing in 2009 fro Wallace,
As a retailer of Wallace Bagpipes this is great news and shows thinking ahead can benefit the Manufacturere and retailer (if anyone wants a price of any Wallace Product send me a wee PM )
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Post by Gordy88 on Mon 12 Jan - 20:10:47

Good to hear,

Wonder how many others will follow suit?

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Post by Redneck on Mon 12 Jan - 20:39:50

Fair play da Craig, good lad. Braveheart
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Post by stormy on Mon 12 Jan - 21:00:06

If this is the case then how will the company survive higher costs for electricity, gas, postage, transport, etc., etc., etc.?
If a company can survive this economic climate without price increases, then have the prices been over inflated in the past?


Hmm

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Post by Redneck on Mon 12 Jan - 22:05:01

Yip, would agree wi yer logic m8.
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Post by WALLACEPIPER on Tue 13 Jan - 14:51:45

Hi Stormy,

Being good businessmen means we will survive the current climate, however, rather than advertise to our competitors how it's done why don't you phone me (0141 954 1234) and I can explain how we geared up 2 years ago with a strategy that is helping right now in these current conditions.

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Post by Gordy88 on Tue 13 Jan - 15:37:36

stormy wrote:If this is the case then how will the company survive higher costs for electricity, gas, postage, transport, etc., etc., etc.?
If a company can survive this economic climate without price increases, then have the prices been over inflated in the past?


Hmm

Thats 30 years of interviews talking if ever I heard it,

Good point mate

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Post by Piping Connections on Tue 13 Jan - 16:28:59

Wallace Bagpipe guys are a good bunch of guys i have taken a few customers around the business premises for a tour - very impressive,
I have had various conversations through the year with Craig and David and the message has not changed - they warned me about increases from as early as last Jan and informed me that prices would go up from their competitors unless they had been clever.

I have to be fair and say i am a retailer for more tha Wallace but Wallace have not put prices up as they said they wouldnt , other manufacturers have - McCallums have recently had an increase and interestingly a new price list for Plastic Pipes dropped through my door yesterday.

Ime not taking sides here as i have said i sell more than wallace pipes but its interesting to watch.
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Post by Robbie.Crow on Tue 13 Jan - 21:14:23

stormy wrote:If this is the case then how will the company survive higher costs for electricity, gas, postage, transport, etc., etc., etc.?
If a company can survive this economic climate without price increases, then have the prices been over inflated in the past?


Hmm
fookin 'ell, watch out wallace bapipes.. strathclydes finest are coming to get ya! big grin big grin big grin
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Post by Dai Robb on Wed 14 Jan - 13:42:33

I applaud Wallace, obviously they sat down while ago and like most businessmen worth their salt, could see what was going to happen, although now retired i am still involved with my old Company, and they also as early as 2 years ago, took steps to ensure that they would be able to withstand the collapse of the markets. The companies that can hold their prices are not fly by nights, but obviously people with the foresight to look ahead.
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Post by stormy on Thu 15 Jan - 0:14:22

Dai Robb wrote:........my old Company, and they also as early as 2 years ago, took steps to ensure that they would be able to withstand the collapse of the markets.

WALLACEPIPER wrote:.....explain how we geared up 2 years ago with a strategy that is helping right now in these current conditions.


I did not mean and was not making any personal "swipe" at Wallace Bagpipes.

If this current collapse of the markets was forseen 2 years ago by astute businessmen from different parts of the country, then why did those so called "astute businessmen" in charge of major National and International companies not do likewise.
Maybe they did, I don't know, but it makes me think.

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Post by Dai Robb on Thu 15 Jan - 15:27:56

"ours is not to reason why?? the old saying comes to mind when I read of these companies going down the swannie, and others hiking prices, to try and stay afloat? It is one of the anomolies of business I am afraid John,
I have known of companies in the past who actually welcomed a recession, just so that they could use that to "fold" and save on taxes etc? I think it was not a case of realising that there was going to be a recession of such proportions, just that a couple of years ago various warning alarms started ringing and those who could? took steps to ensure against total collapse, I suppose this is what they pay all those Milluions to the CEOs for? laughing
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Post by stormy on Fri 16 Jan - 20:19:43

My thoughts and the replies given make it quite clear as to why I am not in business for myself!!!!!!


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Post by Dai Robb on Sat 17 Jan - 16:22:59

Ach but you are good for something though?? (hang on it will come to me???) laughing laughing
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